I met fellow Michigander Marlee Grace years ago at her then store in Grand Rapids Have Company with my friend and former guest Abbey. I bought a zine from her about body image and started following her then new instagram account where she danced. I kept up with her on the internet over the years and watched as her life grew and changed. She got divorced, wrote a couple books, moved to California, all while dancing and making things. We discuss all of this plus creativity, process, family, moving, routines, tattoos, friendship, and feeling feelings. Her work, her creative advising, and in particular her new book How to Not Always Be Working and her zine How a Photo and Video Sharing Social Networking Service Gave Me My Best Friends, True Love, A Beautiful Career, and Made Me Want to Die had a profound impact on me in 2018 so I was real excited to have her on the podcast to discuss them both, plus what’s next for her this year.