A few months ago when I spoke at The Good Fest inPhilly I met a slew of fascinating people, including today’s guest Chris Cieri. However, we can barely call it meeting since we hardly spoke because the weekend was so packed. We kept in touch though and next thing I knew Chris and I became a great friends. He is creative, ambitious, genuine, and the kind of guy who would (as he says in the episode) help you with your oxygen mask before securing his own much to the chagrin of every flight attendant. Chris is the founder of the instagram famous Philadelphia based all-natural skincare line Franklin & Whitman a company that not only is cruelty free but also donates 5% of their sales to animal shelters. He’s an impressive guy–juggling his young business, a high level tech job, and being a father and husband. We get into how he makes it all work and how his motto ‘perfectly imperfect’ helps. This conversation is so rich–we covered our addition to our phones and occupying ourselves, vulnerability and connection, family, ambition, and of course the inception of Frank & Whit beginning with a beard oil. I had a blast recording this episode. Chris and his wonderful wife Lisa came to NYC for the weekend and we not only recording this 2 hour long conversation but talked even more over some rad meals at some of my favorite places in the city. Enjoy this conversation with the man behind Frank & Whit and if you want to try them use the code: KATIE for 20% off.